High Angle Tracks - Formerly Low Angle Tracks

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DiamondGirl
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High Angle Tracks - Formerly Low Angle Tracks

Post by DiamondGirl »

As we've mentioned here and there, some of the low angle tracks are particularly hard to identify (or dismiss) due to their not being part of our training.

Oh gracious moderators - is it possible to see some examples of these tracks that appear to move across the screen from left to right (or vice versa) where they both ARE and ARE NOT a track? This might help us - okay at least me - to know for sure what to look for when the track is more visible than the particle.

Thanks much! :D

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Post by TimStrange »

In the Tutorail section, View #10 is of a low angle particle.

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Post by DustBuster »

There is another example of a possible candidate in the update section under "Latest Findings: Movie Reviews". link->http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... .php?t=879

As for examples of a something that is not a track that may resemble a low angle track, that might be difficult. There have been numerous objects posted that are long, straight 'items' that could be scratches, gouges or any number of things; but the low angle trajectory has a distinguishing characteristic in that the track stays in focus beneath the gel and, if you watch as you change the focus, it seems to 'tunnel' downward (eventually out of the frame). The other FOV where this track ends has also been posted elsewhere in the forums.

Did that help?

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Post by greuti »

Maybe this one could be an example that resembles a low angle track... if it's really not a track.
If it is a real one I would be in second place :)
http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... =3758913V1

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Post by Howie »

greuti wrote:Maybe this one could be an example that resembles a low angle track... if it's really not a track.
If it is a real one I would be in second place :)
http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... =3758913V1
I LIKE IT!!! hOWIE

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Post by Howie »

I LIKE IT ALSO!!! HOWIE

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Post by bmendez »

Example 10 in the tutorial gives an example of a low angle track.

See: http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... _number=10

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Post by greuti »

Hi Brayn,

It might be advisable to add one of the new findings of low angle tracks from stardust.

This Movie ID7933874V1 for example stays still uncared. Only five of 162 have it clicked on so far.


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Post by Mighty Pete »

Notice you can't see the entrance mark ? For all the people that are looking for them....

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Post by starbright »

Here are two movies from my events list that I think show low angle tracks:

http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... d=433711V1
Should be obvious near the left top corner. This has been flagged by 47 out of 185 viewers and has now passed cut 1 with stardust team comment "another IDP".

http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... =7559378V1
Near the right edge. This one is more subtle and flagged by only 2 other viewers out of 88, so I'd be interested in what people think about it. It looks like the particle has split on impact, with the larger fragment travelling slightly further. As far as I can tell both are slightly below surface based on focus on very small dust spots on the surface nearby.

I've seen four of five other convincing (to me) low angle tracks posted by others on several threads. Has anyone else noticed that they all show a fairly similar trajectory, appearing to have been travelling from lower left towards upper right? I presume this is the trajectory consistent with IDPs, hence the team comment on the top movie.

Starbright

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Post by Sebastian »

starbright wrote:http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... =7559378V1
Near the right edge. This one is more subtle and flagged by only 2 other viewers out of 88, so I'd be interested in what people think about it.

Starbright
While the first movie clearly shows the focus layer move along the track when diving deeper into the gel and reach the dark spot at the bottom, the second movie shows two spots at the surface and the shadow reaching out from them appears do be lower than these spots and has no clear focus moving along.

Saying this, I would be proud if I had found the first one and I would have marked the second movie "no tracks"

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Post by starbright »

While the first movie clearly shows the focus layer move along the track when diving deeper into the gel and reach the dark spot at the bottom, the second movie shows two spots at the surface and the shadow reaching out from them appears do be lower than these spots and has no clear focus moving along.


Sebastian, thanks for your comments. I agree that the second doesn't clearly show the 'track' moving down with the focus so you may be right that the features are on the surface.

Starbright

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Post by greuti »

The two "particles" in movie Id 7559378V1 are circa 5-6 focus bars lower than the two spots in the surrounding area to me - on very small steps though. I would say it is a tiny track running diagonal up from the left to the right.

And Sebastian, that movie in your first post above
http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... d=305392V1
show a real track too (to me) - running in from the left.

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Post by Sebastian »

greuti wrote:And Sebastian, that movie in your first post above
http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... d=305392V1
show a real track too (to me) - running in from the left.
Yes, I hope so :roll:

But remember, these low angle tracks are not the ones we are really care for. Specially if we can see a dark spot at the end of the track. The interstellar particles are much smaller and therefor invisible in the movie. They can only be recognized by the damage they do to the gel.

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