Thanks, Nikita. I only did it because the VM was so slow tonight and I thought that it would be much more interesting if I could help the UCB admins to find the Java problem by highlighting the most frequent movies reported having the problem. It may have been a useless exercise, but at least I had "fun" doing it!Nikita wrote:Wow! That must have took a little while to sort out!
Good job GelDelve!
Javascript Image Loading Error
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- Javascript Errors 7 Jan
Movie id_________frame number(s)
4013335V1 ______32 + 34
8105895V1 ______12
4555857 _________1 + 21
6383002V1 _______6
2492571V1 _______9
6369141V1 ______22
4511809V1 _______4 + 17
9864591V1 ______eleven frames missing
122649V1 ________1
7624767V1 _______1 + 25
1178016V1 _______4
7696962V1 ______11 + 25
5855786V1 _______2
9729126V1 _______4 + 34
4203643V1 ______28
3912398V1 _______2
1074444V1 _______5
7114812V1 _______5 + 33
6514967V1 _______7
2947337V1 ______38
7624002V1 _______6
1320961V1 ______26
6941340V1 _______3
8678264V1 ______31 + 33
3473788V1 ______32 + 34
3955001V1 ______32
3125569V1 _______6 + 37
2784751V1 _______9 + 19
1762206V1 ______20
7887950V1 ______10
9831168V1 _______6
5183500V1 ______21
3999899V1 _______2 + 30
669081V1 _______27
9 Jan ~5:00am PST
4929163V1 _______3 +35
4350583V1 _______2 + 20
7303675V1 ______27
2145378V1 _______5
6690148V1 ______12
8373498V1 ______15
4188592V1 _______3
1161860V1 _______9
3914353V1 ______14
7591180V1 _______1
7156395V1 ______24
6229486V1 ______pos cal
2741893V1 ______26
5020234V1
6061145V1 _______6 + 37
6604942V1 ______11
6717870V1 ______32
5404080V1 ______10
___| Refreshing almost always seems to be effective if the movie is in the bottom blue bar.
___| Refreshing almost never works if the movie is in the top blue bar. (next movie)
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___| Often an error message will pop-up when viewing a positive calibration movie.
___| Other times, an error message will pop-up in the movie one or two before a positive cal.
___| Positive cals seem to hang a little bit or be difficult or slow to load or display. Even though
___| loaded in the blue bar, they are slow to display. Always been that way for me.
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The top bar is for the current movie (the one being displayed), the bottom bar is for the next movie (the one being pre-loaded). The error messages are reversed.fjgiie wrote:comments:
___| Refreshing almost always seems to be effective if the movie is in the bottom blue bar.
___| Refreshing almost never works if the movie is in the top blue bar. (next movie)
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___| Often an error message will pop-up when viewing a positive calibration movie.
___| Other times, an error message will pop-up in the movie one or two before a positive cal.
___| Positive cals seem to hang a little bit or be difficult or slow to load or display. Even though
___| loaded in the blue bar, they are slow to display. Always been that way for me.
The URL identifies the previous movie (the one being scored) and the current movie (the one being displayed). The next movie (to be preloaded) is chosen randomly. Refresh will reevalute the URL, and will generally result in a different next movie. So an error in the next movie will generally disappear. The current movie remains current, and so an error in the current movie will persist.
I have tried to look a bit at the bad pictures. So far it looks like the bad frames were simply never uploaded. Probably a random failure in the upload process with inadequate error checking/recovery.
Tom Gutman
Hi Tom,
I read and understood what you said. ( and agree with you on most)
I went just now and refreshed when a Javascript message came up - and your are correct, the movie number changed to a different number. All this time I thought it was filling in the missing frame(s).
This is one of elainekeefe's movies where she says "1922157....9th bar from top"
http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... =1922157V1
This movie is fairly consistant on missing frame #9 as are several I checked. Same frame numbers missing.
Thanks,
fjgiie
I read and understood what you said. ( and agree with you on most)
Scratch (next movie)fjgiie wrote:Refreshing almost never works if the movie is in the top blue bar. (next movie)
I went just now and refreshed when a Javascript message came up - and your are correct, the movie number changed to a different number. All this time I thought it was filling in the missing frame(s).
This is one of elainekeefe's movies where she says "1922157....9th bar from top"
http://stardustathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ ... =1922157V1
This movie is fairly consistant on missing frame #9 as are several I checked. Same frame numbers missing.
Thanks,
fjgiie
stardust people kidding right?
the stardust people are kidding right? there's way too many to list. how about you stardust people fix the problem? or tell us how to shut off java error messages, say for netscape 8.1?
Jan 6
Movie id: 3035178V1
Movie id: 5420491V1
Movie id: 4571503V1
Movie id: 9159307V1
Movie id: 9159307V1
Movie id: 6089122V1
Jan 10
Movie id: 4138563V1
Movie id: 6982158V1
Movie id: 8837620V1
Movie id: 51644V1
Movie id: 3195554V1
Movie id: 3879831V1
Movie id: 766958V1
Movie id: 9539498V1
Movie id: 3530592V1
Movie id: 8956158V1
Movie id: 9305397V1
Movie id: 4992512V1
Movie id: 6280960V1
Movie id: 943320V1
Movie id: 5080183V1
Movie id: 4876779V1
Movie id: 3035178V1
Movie id: 5420491V1
Movie id: 4571503V1
Movie id: 9159307V1
Movie id: 9159307V1
Movie id: 6089122V1
Jan 10
Movie id: 4138563V1
Movie id: 6982158V1
Movie id: 8837620V1
Movie id: 51644V1
Movie id: 3195554V1
Movie id: 3879831V1
Movie id: 766958V1
Movie id: 9539498V1
Movie id: 3530592V1
Movie id: 8956158V1
Movie id: 9305397V1
Movie id: 4992512V1
Movie id: 6280960V1
Movie id: 943320V1
Movie id: 5080183V1
Movie id: 4876779V1
Movie id: 9510076V1
Movie id: 9380142V1
Movie id: 3062985V1
Movie id: 7126888V1
Movie id: 2025304V1
Movie id: 8941447V1
Movie id: 2742743V1
Movie id: 9702764V1
Movie id: 3619538V1
Movie id: 9642305V1
Movie id: 5461734V1
Movie id: 8151643V1
Movie id: 8954713V1
Movie id: 9409649V1
Movie id: 1456080V1
Movie id: 9250548V1
Movie id: 7114812V1
Movie id: 4029066V1
Movie id: 520611V1
Movie id: 1966715V1
Movie id: 9086007V1
Movie id: 4100496V1
Movie id: 1298254V1
Movie id: 2990195V1
Movie id: 7713798V1
Movie id: 2596313V1
Movie id: 8271371V1
Movie id: 9584991V1
Movie id: 2391464V1
Movie id: 8428432V1
Movie id: 6659196V1
Movie id: 6295416V1
Movie id: 5988015V1
Movie id: 9043829V1
Movie id: 4138563V1
Movie id: 1280058V1
Movie id: 6718805V1
Movie id: 6410469V1
Movie id: 2582027V1
Movie id: 8251985V1
Movie id: 2316889V1
Movie id: 9630654V1
Movie id: 3970647V1
Movie id: 8396885V1
Movie id: 8223413V1
Movie id: 7608951V1
Movie id: 4118692V1
Movie id: 9598597V1
Movie id: 7847982V1
Movie id: 2155493V1
Movie id: 7318216V1
Movie id: 5593283V1
Movie id: 9481334V1
Movie id: 2361617V1
Movie id: 8736258V1
Movie id: 1779722V1
Movie id: 3882126V1
Movie id: 1544091V1
Movie id: 9393408V1
Movie id: 4392846V1
Movie id: 4114697V1
Movie id: 1383205V1
Movie id: 1938738V1
Movie id: 5403230V1
Movie id: 7221960V1
Movie id: 4046667V1
Movie id: 1383205V1
Movie id: 1293579V1
Movie id: 7604871V1
Movie id: 8004023V1
Movie id: 3384417V1
Movie id: 8765085V1
Movie id: 3779489V1
Movie id: 8592718V1
Movie id: 4138563V1
Movie id: 8780986V1
Movie id: 1674025V1
Movie id: 1193152V1
Movie id: 2830074V1
Movie id: 9488820V1
Movie id: 1455825V1
Movie id: 5811058V1
Movie id: 4583154V1
Movie id: 5840395V1
Movie id: 1337457V1
Movie id: 5259605V1
Movie id: 2596058V1
Movie id: 9789670V1
Movie id: 7170341V1
Movie id: 1629722V1
Movie id: 7449935V1
Movie id: 9436861V1
Movie id: 4204493V1
Movie id: 8694086V1
Movie id: 7989737V1
Movie id: 9380142V1
Movie id: 3062985V1
Movie id: 7126888V1
Movie id: 2025304V1
Movie id: 8941447V1
Movie id: 2742743V1
Movie id: 9702764V1
Movie id: 3619538V1
Movie id: 9642305V1
Movie id: 5461734V1
Movie id: 8151643V1
Movie id: 8954713V1
Movie id: 9409649V1
Movie id: 1456080V1
Movie id: 9250548V1
Movie id: 7114812V1
Movie id: 4029066V1
Movie id: 520611V1
Movie id: 1966715V1
Movie id: 9086007V1
Movie id: 4100496V1
Movie id: 1298254V1
Movie id: 2990195V1
Movie id: 7713798V1
Movie id: 2596313V1
Movie id: 8271371V1
Movie id: 9584991V1
Movie id: 2391464V1
Movie id: 8428432V1
Movie id: 6659196V1
Movie id: 6295416V1
Movie id: 5988015V1
Movie id: 9043829V1
Movie id: 4138563V1
Movie id: 1280058V1
Movie id: 6718805V1
Movie id: 6410469V1
Movie id: 2582027V1
Movie id: 8251985V1
Movie id: 2316889V1
Movie id: 9630654V1
Movie id: 3970647V1
Movie id: 8396885V1
Movie id: 8223413V1
Movie id: 7608951V1
Movie id: 4118692V1
Movie id: 9598597V1
Movie id: 7847982V1
Movie id: 2155493V1
Movie id: 7318216V1
Movie id: 5593283V1
Movie id: 9481334V1
Movie id: 2361617V1
Movie id: 8736258V1
Movie id: 1779722V1
Movie id: 3882126V1
Movie id: 1544091V1
Movie id: 9393408V1
Movie id: 4392846V1
Movie id: 4114697V1
Movie id: 1383205V1
Movie id: 1938738V1
Movie id: 5403230V1
Movie id: 7221960V1
Movie id: 4046667V1
Movie id: 1383205V1
Movie id: 1293579V1
Movie id: 7604871V1
Movie id: 8004023V1
Movie id: 3384417V1
Movie id: 8765085V1
Movie id: 3779489V1
Movie id: 8592718V1
Movie id: 4138563V1
Movie id: 8780986V1
Movie id: 1674025V1
Movie id: 1193152V1
Movie id: 2830074V1
Movie id: 9488820V1
Movie id: 1455825V1
Movie id: 5811058V1
Movie id: 4583154V1
Movie id: 5840395V1
Movie id: 1337457V1
Movie id: 5259605V1
Movie id: 2596058V1
Movie id: 9789670V1
Movie id: 7170341V1
Movie id: 1629722V1
Movie id: 7449935V1
Movie id: 9436861V1
Movie id: 4204493V1
Movie id: 8694086V1
Movie id: 7989737V1
This is a list of Java script error movies (to date and this time: 1/10/2007 and 2300 PST) that have been reported by more than one entry above. Some members have made multiple entries on a given day (the date shown is the date the member posted his message).
Agreements 6 4138563V1
... DustBuster 1/4/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 4 7004154V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 198414V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 228006V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 710749V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 869425V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 943320V1
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 1074444V1
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 1166110V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 1383205V1
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 1602340V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 1922157V1
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 2362892V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 2508472V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 2596058V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 2596313V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 3312987V1
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 3619538V1
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 3736291V1
... WorWizard 1/3/2007
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
Agreements 2 3912398V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 3969202V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4204493V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4232980V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 4350583V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4482217V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 4511809V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4613936V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... xxxxxy 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 5021934V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... elainekeefe 1/8/2007
Agreements 2 5389199V1
... DustBuster 1/4/2007
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 5489371V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 5840395V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 5971944V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 6383002V1
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 6486064V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 6558344V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 6559024V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 6879436V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 7053673V1
... WorWizard 1/3/2007
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
Agreements 2 7114812V1
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 7170341V1
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 7245851V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 7318216V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 7696962V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 8037355V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 8152238V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/8/2007
Agreements 2 8341696V1
... DustBuster 1/4/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 8396885V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 8607265V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
Agreements 2 8678264V1
... DustBuster 1/8/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 8999186V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 9159307V1
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 9305227V1
... xxxxxy 1/4/2007
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 9642305V1
... WorWizard 1/3/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
If this is not helpful to the UCB staff, then I would appreciate it if they would let me know!
Agreements 6 4138563V1
... DustBuster 1/4/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 4 7004154V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 198414V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 228006V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 710749V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 869425V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 943320V1
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 1074444V1
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 1166110V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 1383205V1
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 1602340V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 1922157V1
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 2362892V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 2508472V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 2596058V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 2596313V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 3312987V1
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 3619538V1
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 3736291V1
... WorWizard 1/3/2007
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
Agreements 2 3912398V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 3969202V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4204493V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4232980V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 4350583V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4482217V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 4511809V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 4613936V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... xxxxxy 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 5021934V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... elainekeefe 1/8/2007
Agreements 2 5389199V1
... DustBuster 1/4/2007
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 5489371V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 5840395V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 5971944V1
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 6383002V1
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 6486064V1
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 6558344V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 6559024V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 6879436V1
... WorWizard 1/5/2007
... elainekeefe 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 7053673V1
... WorWizard 1/3/2007
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
Agreements 2 7114812V1
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 7170341V1
... DustBuster 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 7245851V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... BIGAL 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 7318216V1
... WorWizard 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 7696962V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 8037355V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... fjgiie 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 8152238V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... DustBuster 1/8/2007
Agreements 2 8341696V1
... DustBuster 1/4/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 8396885V1
... DustBuster 1/6/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 8607265V1
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
... fjgiie 1/4/2007
Agreements 2 8678264V1
... DustBuster 1/8/2007
... fjgiie 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 8999186V1
... fjgiie 1/5/2007
... dbrodin 1/6/2007
Agreements 2 9159307V1
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
Agreements 2 9305227V1
... xxxxxy 1/4/2007
... DustBuster 1/7/2007
Agreements 2 9642305V1
... WorWizard 1/3/2007
... WorWizard 1/10/2007
If this is not helpful to the UCB staff, then I would appreciate it if they would let me know!
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__Many of these popups occurred with a positive cal being clicked, or being displayed.
__
- Javascript Errors 10 Jan
Movie id_________frame number(s)
8780306V1 ______32
1911526V1 ______32
4039017V1 ______11
7216344V1 _______3 + 36
798080V1 _______14 + 29
2245629V1 ______26 + 30
6251538V1 ______12
9979298V1 ______15 + 25 + 30
6529092V1 ______10 + 34
1984401V1 ______23
3446406V1 ______16
141355V1 _______27
9323763V1 ______25
5533792V1 ______32
870777V1 _______17 + 23 + 26 + 31
7004154V1 _______2
5216407V1 ______18
6133425V1 _______6 + 17
2257875V1 ______25
5914120V1 ______27
6878331V1 _______3
3414689V1 _______8 +28
5855701V1 ______11
5785631V1 ______22
3298191V1 ______10 + 24 + 28
9320363V1 _______5 + 12
593656V1 _______10
7727744V1 ______13 + 17 + 18
445696V1 _______20
6673142V1 ______13
3020212V1 ______33
4597695V1 _______2
7744155V1 ______34
1353698V1 ______17
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7532081V1 ______31
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I seem to do good until I check my events and then I start getting them. I usually run two screens and only the screen that I check my events on will give me the error. I don't know if anyone else has had this, and I don't see how they could be related, but that's what the pattern has been for me lately.
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