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Is something wrong with the rankings?

Post by bmendez » Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:53 am

Q: Is something wrong with the rankings?

A: Yes. Rankings are behaving very strangely, not updating for long periods of time, not being in correct order, and having too many digits. This is a new bug that has appeared in the last day or so. We are aware of the problem and will try to figure out and fix it as soon as we can.

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Post by BenTrem » Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:14 am

Also related is that Rank on VM is frozen. A couple of participants report being stuck at something like 65992 ir 6378.

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Post by jbigam » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:20 am

I just registered today and I'm seeing that

Your Rank: 65535 out of 7086

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Post by ToSeek » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:11 pm

My impression is that your rank will start out at 65535 until the (apparently buggy) software fixes it. 65535 is the largest number that will fit into a 16-bit computer word.
If you're going to be just like everyone else, what's the point in existing?

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Post by Blarrrg » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:33 pm

The ranks seem to be working now!
Mine just changed :D

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Post by bartsob5 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:43 pm

i registered 3 days ago, and i also was no. 65535 out of 5000, but till i got some points. so i think that this is quite normal situation that is because of wrongly written alghorytm of ranking-program.

so the problem really is about updates than that.

by the way, is there a chance to be there ranking of all registered users, not only first 100?
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Post by Sharqua » Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:39 pm

Not fixed yet, unfortunately. I got adjusted but then it froze again.

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Suggestion for New Ranking System

Post by GuruBuckaroo » Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:20 pm

Rather than rely upon the raw score as currently computed, would't it make more sense, be less suceptable to alleged "cheating", and properly reflect the amount of 'science' done to compute rank as such:

Total # of 'real' movies viewed X specificity% X sensitivity% = Score

That way, you're not basing the rank on just the number of calibration movies, but on the actual percentages used in weighing the member's accuracy and the number of real science contributions made.

This way, anyone who skips ('bad focus') over the URL-identified real movies won't earn a high ranking from their actions.

Not that I really give a squat about the rankings - I'm happy that my specificity is 96% and my sensitivity is 99%, and don't pay attention to my Score (as computed now). I'm in it for the science.
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Rank and Top 100

Post by astrok2003 » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:31 pm

For those who are concerned about rank, I do agree that, especially since the rank server is not functioning properly right now, the important part of the stats are the percentages. I do have a suggestion for those of us who are enjoying the thrill of trying to reach the Top 100 while contributing to the cause (or for those who have made it, slipped back, made it, slipped back! lol). I understand that certificates are not going to be ready for a little while for the Top 100 while the kinks are being worked out. Since a person's standing in the Top 100 is so flexible due to their (our) own efforts and/or mistakes, what if we had certificates for the 1000+ Club? Anyone whose score goes over 1000 qualifies.

You could keep the Top 100 list going for kicks and giggles, especially after the rank server is fixed. I'm not fixated on my "score," but I admit it adds an extra feeling of accomplishment to reach different milestones.

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Re: Rank and Top 100

Post by BenTrem » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:38 am

astrok2003 wrote:I'm not fixated on my "score," but I admit it adds an extra feeling of accomplishment to reach different milestones.
I find it keeps me focused. Pick up the stone; throw the stone; run to the stone; redo from start.

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Post by Nikita » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:05 pm

:lol:

Thanks for the laugh BenTrem!!!
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